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Aditya Krishna Mootha

case of segmental tibia n fibula in a young male patient closed injury n no associated injuries. opinion of the house regarding management options n do we need to fix fibula? how many do prefer/ perform tibial nailng in 30 deg flexion.

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  Satyendra Singh Will like to opt close il

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 8:35 · Me gusta
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  Sadique Ahmed Khan Fibula plate n ETN for tibia.

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 8:42 · Me gusta
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  Dinesh Loganathan How about long distal tibial LCP?

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 8:52 · Me gusta · 2
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  Ramesh Kumar Gupta Close imi nail

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 8:55 · Me gusta
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  Umesh Meena Etn with long k wire in fibula

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 9:12 · Me gusta
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  Umesh Meena Like this

  

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 9:13 · Me gusta
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  Paras Gupta ETN and Fibular nailing

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 9:19 · Me gusta
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  Vinit Yadav I would again like to do like this .. Mippo . 2 month fwp.

  

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 10:27 · Me gusta · 1
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  Nitesh Gahlot Fibula plate .atleast for distal fracture.... it will control the alignment of small distal fragment of tibia... then etn can done easily

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 10:39 · Me gusta
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  Srinivas Daravathu Fibula flex nail and medial Mipo dtlcp

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 10:41 · Me gusta · 1
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  Nitesh Gahlot Vinit Yadav hi... vinit ur option is good too... but then again plate pulls fracture madially... as seen ur xray too...

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 10:41 · Me gusta · 1
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  Vinit Yadav No Dr Nitesh Gahlot , distal tibial plate of Indian make r usually much flexible. So as when you put cortical screw usully plate does contour to bone.

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 11:05 · Me gusta
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  Srinivas Daravathu

  

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 11:06 · Me gusta · 2
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  Srinivas Daravathu Distractor or ext fix first

  

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 11:07 · Me gusta · 2
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  Lokesh Bhatia I will prefer to fix distal fracture fibula with plate and screws or elastic nail which will address both,having fixed fibula Tibial Interlocking nailing can be done. With appropriate nail design.

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 11:53 · Me gusta
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  Awadhesh Yadav Dear....i do these cases with simple table n break the distal side comfortably......positioning is very imp...not a simple straight forward nailing....i will stabilize the fibula first with k wire or thin tens.....to get the correct length....then 30 or 90 degree bend at knee would be made depending upon the. Sx.preferance....putting guide wire would be easy but no reaming n reducing butterfly most of the time require small opening at one#site....it will also help in assesing the rotation of tibia.......ETN type nails r best with multiple distal holes....gental back slap can be done ...looking at the fibula....now it may cause distraction at one #site in tibia....can be managed easily at the expense of fibula..... Central distal tip of nail is a must....

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:25 · Me gusta · 1
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  Awadhesh Yadav Dear Aditya Krishna Moothawhat was the mode of injury....was it fall from stairs...or foot trapped /direct hit???

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:28 · Me gusta
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  Satyendra Singh Why making you all its so complicated nothing new il nail is best..rest is ur choice

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:31 · Me gusta · 1
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  Awadhesh Yadav Dear Satyendra Singhsegmental tibia are dificult one to get reduce easily ....more so if caused by high velocity trauma....had revised 3 _4 cases ...one eas a young just married girl...x rays wete perfect with 3 circilage wire...done open outside....presented to me with big exposed ant.bony fragment and obviously.....pus discharge....x .rays r not everything....managing that patient. Could have been better.....all of us has some good/bad exp. Of particular #..learning from others mistakes n improving our own surgical skills based on others good results is what ...this forum is for ,i think....

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:40 · Me gusta · 1
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  Satyendra Singh Its almosr rediced insert nail

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:41 · Me gusta
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  Awadhesh Yadav What about post.butterfly....do u think it will fall back like colle,s??

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:42 · Me gusta
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  Awadhesh Yadav And we have not seen the knee joint x rays yet???

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 13:44 · Me gusta
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  Satyendra Singh So you want butterfly as a dead piiece by opening :

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 15:04 · Editado · Me gusta
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  Anuj Agrawal The distal fibular fracture has to be fixed in this. 
  The tibia can be managed both by a nail or plate, depending upon surgeon's preference.
  The proximal tibial fracture is comminuted, and requires closed reduction with relative stability, either by a nail or locked plate in bridge mode.
  The distal fracture is simple, and can be fixed with either relative (with nail) or absolute stability (with compression plate). Achieving relative stability with plate would be difficult, as the screws on both sides will be close to the fracture, resulting in a short working length.
  
  I would use a medial DT-LCP in combination mode in this case, with open reduction and compression across the distal fracture (with fibular plating), and proximal fracture fixed in a MIPO fashion.

  10 de diciembre a la(s) 21:19 · Editado · Me gusta · 2
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  Aditya Krishna Mootha I did a closed nailing as well as percutaneous TENS for fibula

  

  Ayer a las 5:20 · Me gusta · 4
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  Srinivas Daravathu it needed static locking proximally,more compression at fracture site

  Ayer a las 5:22 · Me gusta · 1
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  Srinivas Daravathu nice try

  Ayer a las 5:23 · Me gusta
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  Aditya Krishna Mootha Why shortening??? fibula length maintained. Yeah in view of swelling i didnt try to fiddle with the post. fragment. will keep the patient on close follow up.

  Ayer a las 5:27 · Me gusta · 1
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  Lokesh Bhatia Well done.

  Ayer a las 7:37 · Me gusta
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  Dalshukh Parmar interlock expert tibia

  11 horas · Me gusta